Moderator: Crown join Sohu, intellectual interpretation of life. Hello everybody! Welcome to Crown Intellectual interview. Intellectuality from the culture, Chinese traditional culture, poetry and painting on behalf mm crown this year, the theme of intellectual interviews. This issue we interview is ; book that your work is a recurring scene is such a Henan village, your impression of your home is what?
Yan: First of all one question in the novel to his hometown, and we look like today is the own home, in essence, the home and another home is not equal, although the place of my home is more poor, relatively backward, but absolutely not the way of literary works, there are the modern side, there are busy side, but something novel, like a spiritual home, the home is not a reality.
Moderator: Your childhood is kind of how it?
Yan: My childhood may be completely different people, full of the childhood memories are the two memories in the first memory is a great hunger, always have enough to eat, the second is the boredom, mental depression, life did not always live in the light, no future, no way out, this is the life Two memory.
Moderator: Are there any specific things?
Yan: for example, when a small school, when school is always the first thing, back home into the kitchen to open the lid to see today What food do the morning is the sweet potato noodles, we Henan called sweet potatoes, boiled sweet potatoes clean, noon to open the lid a look that is sweet potato noodles, boiled sweet potatoes at night is still clear, when my biggest dream is that when this life can be a eat a plate of scrambled eggs, this is the most happy about.
Moderator: In addition to life experience, when you started early childhood work, is to begin work after graduating from junior high school was?
Yan : If the work, then six-year-old children from rural areas are beginning to work, everyone began to labor, rural children may be nothing to play, work may be a relatively happy lifestyle, and other groups at least on a several children in a very uninteresting.
Moderator: I heard that you are unskilled laborer to the brick when it comes to playing hurt are you?
Yan: the real work could begin to leave the first-year junior high school home, this time called migrant workers, then called the Little work, when to leave home to Luoyang to do unskilled laborer, then a 12-hour a day or so to dry, when the annual summer and winter have done such a thing.
Moderator: Because you are born in rural areas, small life is hard, six-year-old began to see how work is started, and Zheng is a twelve-year-old division to begin work until you are going to join the army in 1978. < br> Yan: the army has 20 years of age, of course, completely before the middle of the age of 20 in the country, all the memory is fully formed before the age of 20, such as the work just mentioned, may be most profound when you remember, until the Today is also a memory write this, I hope by the end of the book. such as the longest work is never graduated high school drop-out home, home with the patient, in order to treat my sister to Xinxiang a lime factory workers, to the mountains limestone car loaded with explosives exploded, then every 8 hours with 1.6 yuan, are related to dry 16 hours, no relationship can only do 8 hours.
Moderator: That's what you live state of the time read it?
Yan: Our study compared the children of today, there is another relatively happy existence, you just do not read the so-called study, such as our junior high school, always start from the second grade is back, Yan: do not remember, but some such as serving the people, but when serving Bethune very popular, I then can the a book, ?
Yan: It was a child's dream is to one day a person I can not eat a plate of scrambled eggs, of course, I can escape the ultimate purpose of the land and fled to the city to ever earn a salary, there is an iron jobs, now seldom heard the word, but 15 years ago, 20 years ago is the most popular words, when either the university entrance exam, or a soldier, I also participated in the 1978 college entrance exam, then we have four or five ten students are concentrated in a small temple, the first sit for 77 years, went, and you sit in class to write the text. I remember that time essay question, What is now forgotten, but asked to write two thousand words, made a three-page manuscript, about 600 words per page manuscript, after the three-page manuscript finished, lifted up, that teacher can not give me two pages of manuscript paper, we have a large number invigilator to raise such a manuscript for everyone to see, that students see the students called Yan, his words very well written, very neatly written word, must be admitted. Everyone thought that Yan is the necessarily admitted to the University, the results of volunteer time to fill out problem.
not understand their choice of all time is doing, to be honest that is their choice of which school you think of what to write to universities, and asked to write what university? teacher said, Henan University, such as writing or Peking University, Peking University know that in Beijing, said that in what may be Henan University in Zhengzhou, Kaifeng, in fact. our first student to fill in the Peking University, the results we are a country of more than 40 volunteers have filled all the students of Beijing University, the result was no one there admitted, such admission notice for a month, the county admitted no one, then I ask a lot of students, said many people have filled the Beijing University, only know of Peking University, Henan University, when the soldiers left after .
Moderator: military service because it is not admitted to the university to the army, the army have any particular experience you?
Yan: the army of the most important experience is, people 17 years of age, 18 years old, you are 20 years of age, you'll see a lot of things than others, like you know you want to join the party, to provide dry, it must not only work well, but also perform well, reveille to get up before everyone sweeping, and sweeping the floor to use the broom First, who will be able to get the broom and did a good job, get up early every day, take the broom to blanket Tibetan go, every day we have not up here when you sweep the floor, you can join the party a little faster. of course 20 years of age to understand, not only to perform well to be good at relationships, such as the annual ceremony to send to the leadership, the leadership will find a reason to send two packets of peanuts, get two packs of cigarettes.
I think my most vivid memories is that you first have the opportunity to leave the troops home on time, leading us to know one, they called us today to make quilts quilt cover. our county has a silk factory, specializes in the production of .8 dollars a quilt, you know that 16 quietly money to buy two pieces of quilt to give to battalion commander, sent to instructor.
course, I am also very good performance, the result is that you that you are the first batch of soldiers to join the party inside one of the advantages I think I'm a soldier than elsewhere two years old, know-how to understand the relationship between a number of Department. because many people than I am doing good, but really the big advantage of the age, relationship and understand how the leaders at the good.
Moderator: Your work is first published in the army?
Yan: the first published work was in 1978, joined the army, and then the second half of 1979, it said it would particularly long, because there may be small love literature, love of literature to love writing.
Moderator: home when you started writing, are not you?
Yan: writing a novel is just the start of high school, before 1975, our vice-chairman Zhang Kangkang Chinese Writers Association, he wrote a long novel called such a change, why I do not write fiction, so from an early age began to write. was also written more than 30 million words, when the army had finished the novel.
Moderator: There are often involved in your work Vietnam War to the contents of self-defense, you were up to participate in such a campaign?
Yan: did not participate in self-defense war, but particularly impressed, when I was a recruit, even in performance and very good recruits, good to what extent? good to recruit even shooting, 10 rounds actually hit the 99 ring, and I monitor my ass severely kicked with his foot, said the results give you a head of ten rounds of ammunition, fighting in other places to see how much play ring, the results beat the 98 ring, that you race it, got the results of the third, hit a 96 ring.
Moderator: You seem to be on call?
Yan: I was lucky , and the troops are waiting to fight tomorrow, but there is a good situation, because your calligraphy writing is better, our company said Yan you out of bulletin boards, and your words to write well, you just written on the blackboard so-called poetry is doggerel now look. We come to a director and very was not, was our most important military party was to Jiang Qing, who wrote many speeches as Gang of Four, Jiang Qing, and down down, His position is important from the tempered here. The instructor is I met one of the most important people alive today in Hangzhou.
he saw the man to write a good poem and asked me what, I What's that; hobbies? I say love novels, put your chapter to give him a look. I called my brother said you fed up to the novel, we look at the leadership, the results of my brother said, you go After, my mother put all of your paper are all when the ignition of the primer, and you left our mother has been burned, not much, and I said, the number of how many to send, probably sent out dozens of pages, do not know How many dozens of pages looked at the role of instructor, but at least know that you are novel lovers. was to be established literature class, instructor to recommend me to go, I am very careful account of few words, after three days of our troops to standby to go to the train station, and asked to go to war three days later to say, you are the talent we send troops to learn your class, you come back if troops have to go back to troops you do not, of course, you can also attended the classes home in the look, so I filled with emotion for this instructor. so I end my day before classes the next day coming home today, gone wrong, then do the equivalent of deserters, though some people agree with you back, I did that forces me to the station to find them, they are fighting a long backpack from the car back to the barracks, so I think you write those stories, from the mind and experience the fear of war is very real.
Moderator: Your college education is basically done in the armed forces.
Yan: For me, may not be called to complete a university education, because the time to write a resume that you read the book at the Henan University, School of Politics Department, in essence, said today that is completely out and buy a diploma today, called the school classes, correspondence courses, is the force at that time to upgrade their qualifications to see if all units are junior diploma, high school diploma, including our Director, political commissar, head of the political commissar, etc., with the highest degree is a high school graduation, when the country should look at 80 years raising the cultural level, to quickly improve the culture of water, out of 30 units through the examination of individuals, to the Henan University, 3 thousand of each individual dollars, to do a school correspondence courses, I think this may not be called complete education, complete mix it such a diploma.
Host: People's Liberation Army came to the Institute of the Arts.
Yan: the regular full-time for at least learning, because the PLA Institute of the Arts is a college, because you love to learn, there is a lot of people out, such as Mo Yan, such as Li Po, I would like to study here to study here.
Moderator: Do you still students with Mo Yan too?
Yan: He reminds me of two, count me Shige it.
Moderator: Yan, a teacher at your entire experience of growing up in fact there is a strong driving force in promoting you, maybe you themselves feel not so noble, is to get rid of land, ideal for a child, himself a man to eat a fried egg, in fact, do not you think, in fact, you are very talented people, because not everyone wanted to write to writing, and you have been working hard, this intermediate may be used some special tools, such as sending gifts, good relations with the relevant people, in fact, all this with your own efforts, or inseparable. So for today's young people, I think the course of your life should have available to them for reference, how do you now talk about these young friend?
Yan: I think this is the case, in fact, the ideal man called Ye Hao, level if there are two situations to guide your progress, a progress is really the ideal person like me, even people like Mao Zedong, is ideal for real. another person, for example, I a certain light, a kind of ideal to Yan'an and of course we can order the new China, for example, I want to pursue a certain woman, for example, I want to run away from home to go to Yan'an Road, and later became revolutionaries, and later became the military strategist, But the first real desire is very specific. From this perspective we can not do Che Guevara, a little, we are willing to do a specific purpose in a particular person, then it is a house, a car, I anyone want to work hard for this, but do not reap the profits, of course, I struggle the most basic principle is that I fight but can not hurt others, and today as long as you are willing to fight for the lipstick, are willing to fight for the car, the house is willing to fight, they fight will lead to success, do not look down as the material interests of the struggle, the material interests of the struggle is also a great beacon to guide us and coordinate.
Moderator: We have transferred to another topic, you are a prolific writer, you write 500 million words.
Yan: Now do not talk about high-yield, a yield that people write about are garbage now.
Moderator: the total number of 500 million, also 10, a few of the Complete Works, in these works have the most inside your own satisfied with the work?
Yan: I think my writing may be divided into two or three stages, of course, entirely literary bent 80 stage, after all, is the growth stage. but from the 90's, I would say years Day, Passing Days, this is a stage. including writing fleeting, > Moderator: Before your early 90s?
Yan: economic interests of such a stage, you have a real experience to write the story of Sands digging, or have any particular reason inspired you?
Yan: I think we often say, no matter how strong your imagination, power repeatedly, there is always the idea of life to guide your writing, such as the early 90s, my hometown has a gold mine, but not Panning, dredging, is ore of gold, not gold, but the problem there will think of gold and gold represents one aspect of material, so write a Moderator: that a person did not stand in front of the gold.
Yan: Yes, parents, family, brother and sister family, husband and wife family, all the people will change the face of a gold, so that each piece of gold may indeed changes have taken place in a person.
Moderator: fool this role is what implications does it?
Yan: I think it might fool in this society, I often say when faced with money, you will find all of the normal people have become abnormal, it may seem a bit silly but normal, and I think I may have a very twisted kind of a symbolic meaning in them.
Moderator: Yes, he himself is a fool, with one hand, more normal to look upon his father, look at his brother.
Yan: I think probably the thing that really the face of money, when faced with a woman you will find, of course, our normal life, we look like a fool, but fools if at the moment, in his world he looked like a fool as we are.
Moderator: look at this dispute it?
Yan: the novel as I could not dispute is not normal, has been the least controversial was called the been called money, please the customer, nothing was.
Moderator: , feel, and the into a mechanism for these things.
Moderator: simply have a comparison, two of the world.
Yan: complete comparison of the two worlds.
Moderator: but rather is composed of persons with disabilities The family also maintained a concern for them, but the world is simply normal.
Yan: that our world today, probably in the all are disabled, blind, deaf, paralytic, and so, these people had very good discrimination between one another and they help each other, who mutilated his inner world is very sound, but in another world In our real world, each of us is physically sound, and may our hearts and souls is completely crippled.
Moderator: Finally, I think there are two things that are more symbolic, one Utopian village had great significance, when we went to the county when not in possession of his own legs out off the disabled has become, but you will not find in reality exist, I think, is an understanding of a utopia.
Moderator: As a writer, is the record of life, when you become a professional writer, you are by what means to perceive life?
Yan: I think We are beginning a writer is a recorder of life, writes to a certain extent should be a recorder of the soul or the soul recording, a writer I want to write today, when the relationship between life and has been very, very subtle, and you to life and to maintain a link, I think is not necessarily what you have to personally experience the things I do not say a word in favor of everyone to say it, literature and art from life, than life, I do not agree In this case, it is from life, than life, but behind these words is to ask you to keep in life. I think a writer in fact, your emotions, your soul, as long as the reality of this society to maintain a tight, antagonistic relationship, as long as this tension, the opposite relationship exists, in fact, you and this time, and this reality has maintained very close contact, even if you sit in this room, look at a newspaper, watch a TV, you have a relationship with this society, you may experience this reality to a real village, to a certain position to experience than the experience of these people may be more profound.
Moderator: explain this difference is that, you not only only a recorder of social life, but the soul of the recording, that is to the soul, if concerned about the soul of this stage, there may be many similarities, but also those who do not relate to specific environmental, or some specific thing to be able to grab some things in common.
Yan: I think today we see the example of Lu Xun, as long as the saw Runtu side, he can all the people of the world to produce a sympathetic, Leo Tolstoy walk in the street they see a beggar, can care for the entire human race. but some people may never live in the beggar the middle, can not sympathize with the human, sympathetic beggar, you are a believer, it can not, as Tolstoy love of mankind as a whole, your soul, your mind and the world has never cut off contact for the writers is sufficient. Is AIDS a man to write Well certainly got AIDS, you see a man must go write for drug abuse Well.
Moderator: Yan teacher, you keep writing for 30 years, and has gradually formed writing your own personal style as a writer do you think personal style is very important to you?
Yan : For a writer's personality is very, very important, we do in life to write a word very much a writer, write 8,000,000 words very much, but these people often say that Yan does not write novels, but they are more can not write novels, is that these people did not personality, the personality of a writer is that you exist in the literature the most basic reason, if there is no personality in the literature you will never be justified, your personality is stronger, more not a substitute for, the more you may have literary value irreplaceable.
Moderator: Do you think your own personal style is what?
Yan: This is hard to say, such as Yan's style of writing is what I Every time the reader may want to see your novel, this is Yan write fiction novel written by someone else and not very eager to change, but could not escape the reader's eyes, they say madness of Yan novel, fable, imaginative , would say that Yan is black humor, absurd realism, is a critical realism, post-modern, this may Yan, Yan never know what it was like, this person may be the most accurate Yan, enough to make it clear if all of a sudden What is it like Yan, Yan you are, you wrote Or click on the subject know that this approach is Yan's works.
Yan: But you understand the absurd, may never advocated an absurdity, will think this is Yan.
Moderator: that you do it yourself that is not the maintenance of a certain kind of thing deliberately, but his expression is such a slowly formed.
Yan: For example, such an absurd question, you will think it is a way you know the world is an eye you see the world, even if Yan could see an absurd thought, I think the world is absurd, this life is absurd, not as we imagine, there are so many desires and the Sound of Music, this myth may be runs through the novel, we know from the absurd Yan may be the beginning.
Moderator: That you see the world is such.
Yan: I think the world itself is like this, do I see too many things the same way the Son.
Moderator: Yan teacher, you have the status of Chinese literature is how the evaluation?
Yan: Of course we can not be optimistic about literature, I have been speaking, to the world of literature said that from the world, literature is indeed a time from peak to trough, which is a big trend, a large parabolic, can not reverse it. But today, the Chinese literature I think it is ideal, because the immersion down people writing in writing, the person writing for the world market are writing, they have a clear division of labor, division of labor is not clear literary afraid, everyone wanted to be a master, everybody wants to sell a lot of money, everyone Each of the novel to sell 500 million copies, this is very scary. is now very clear division of labor, you write your hobbies, ideal work, you sell 5 million to write, you love to write bad novels.
Moderator: Yan teacher said you have 10 years of his working hours to create what is your next step?
Yan: I have 50 years of age, the age of the best writing, I think 60 years ago, even if you body is very good, over 60 years of age have been powerless to write novels, but also mental strength to keep up the good, writing novels is a heavy labor, I think within 10 years, I am very keen to complete a do readers think of this Yan previous novel in the works had not occurred in China's literary works have not been followed, everyone is very eager to complete the feel of a surprise, this novel is not good, but others have never seen this way.
Moderator: is to reach a creative peak.
Yan: No, that peak, there is a huge change, it is my great hope, including the familiar Yan readers will then read the novel Yan previous work felt so different, so I will basically achieve the purpose of the.
Moderator: The literature is now interested in engaging young people, you give them from creation to share it?
Yan: I think young people today write much better than us at that time, regardless of paper from a network point of view or perspective, when our 20-year-old is much more than their naive, I think that children are very promising. But one day, you are now the literature as a cause of Ye Hao, Ye Hao as a bowl of rice, we are a different matter, but you are willing to literature as a cause, as when the pursuit of your life , I think, is very, very important study.
Moderator: To learn to read.
Yan: learn to read easily, it is important to learn to read what kind of book, possible that these are very important.
Moderator : What kind of books read it?
Yan: I think if you want to be a best-selling author, you want to read the world's best-selling book, at least know the world's best-selling author was writing, doing, If you want to be a pure literature, as no one writing fiction, you must know Master the various countries what to write, think, of course, we have died, including writers such good work, you do not see 1% , 2%, 0.5%, at least you see it, we say that the 18th century was the peak of world literature since the 18th century, 19th century, when the peak of our literature, so much work to understand one-third.
Moderator : first reading, is not to say read a lot of Du Fu.
Yan: I think at least while being read to write, can not read, and indeed better than you read a classic novel written ten. such as we said today care Ersi Tai, better than we read contemporary Chinese literature, and from then realize something, read this novel may be better than reading this magazine ten years.
Moderator: Yan teacher, for a writer, We are very curious about the daily life of a writer would be like.
Yan: My daily life is his best boring, very boring, and I basically started every morning at 8 minutes to sit down and either given to study, or writing, written 10:30, wrote two thousand words, the afternoon tea to go out, chat, every day. So I say the morning than the afternoon had been meaningful, but one thing in the morning I will not get people to disturb , any thing can put it down to put it down.
Moderator: Chat is chat about what?
Yan: Chat is even more boring, like friends sitting on a talk about women, about the house, talk car, and never talks literature.
Moderator: This is not your way of life involved in it?
Yan: Actually, I think of writing as a way to relax, writing is very hard, the author may only write for two hours, did not even finish some time after the words are too lazy to say, I am most excited when the beginning of each year when the NBA regular season, I wrote about 10:30, and then look at NBA saw 12:30.
Moderator: like the NBA?
Yan: watching NBA, can actually sit down and relax.
Moderator: they like to play you?
Yan: he did not love sports, I think sports fans people who are often in poor health.
Moderator: watch other people exercise better than his campaign.
Yan: I would like to look for people who love boxing considerable part of the body of poor people, but love NBA of the people are not their own activities to flexible person.
Moderator: We have just said, your work is controversial, you I've been particularly impressed, you say you are for their own peace of mind to write, how do you like to face such a controversy, such enormous social pressure, and then you have to make that choice, adhere to write their own to write things?
Yan: I think it gave me maximum support was my age, say, 20 years old, 30 years old, 40 years old, so I probably will not hesitate, but do so gradually I realized that I was 45 years old has reached this age, for example, you are in the army, the so-called work, or The so-called title Ye Hao, may also to a considerable job, such as you might to being the Secretary, I am now in force alone I may be the Major General, but this time left right, left is Secretary position to really relax, the so-called rights the so-called duties, the so-called money, you do not have so much meaning. we always say no official a clear, today, I do not care what position, and the only thing I care about is the writing, I think that for me has nothing to fear not terrible, and can express the things you most want to express, make your writing inspiration and talent to maximize the play, this may be your only pursue things, I think, precisely because of your age A lot of life to your insights and support, not in this age you can not make something of this age.
Moderator: That is the age at this stage, then this is a mood of all aspects of Ye Hao , or the conditions of your own Ye Hao, can be more free to.
Yan: For me, I might do every age of life, the cause of literature are considered, you are 20 years old time to consider the literature must give me a bowl of food to eat, in the age of 30 must be considered to have fame and fortune, when China's famous author, but to this day do not think this is all meaningless, the only One consideration is what I really want to write your own ...
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